It's good to challenge white supremacy in all of its incarnations at all time. It's certainly good to refuse to be proud to be white considering what the concept of whiteness is.

It's another thing to performatively hate yourself in a cocktail of millennial self-deprecation and liberal white guilt. It's not revolutionary, and it's probably not good for you.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think people here are predominantly the former and not the later. The later is just rank liberalism. Important distiction though

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Every one here is a liberal except me liberalism

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The latter definitely exists

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Oh it certainly does, not trying to say it doesn't.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's another thing to performatively hate yourself in a cocktail of millennial self-deprecation and liberal white guilt. It's not revolutionary, and it's probably not good for you.

Ah but have you considered that I want to self deprecate in a way that aligns with my political values?

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hating yourself for being white aligns with your political values?

Did I miss something in State and Revolution?

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Actually the book your looking for is Settlers

[–] Self_Hating_Moid@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I read settlers and Bscklash and now i wwnt to put a bullet in my head and one in ebery other white /s /uj /j /us /gen

[–] HexbearGPT@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Be a race traitor.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

its okay you can name them

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's terrible because if I wanted to be something other than white all the things I might have felt any associated with are claimed by white supremacy. Like, damn. Which is worse being proud white or proud of you british ancestry?

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's not entirely true. There's a lot of folk and other culture that's solidly left wing and associated with the working classes. It's just mostly more english/welsh/cornish/scottish than british specifically.

Even then if you want to enjoy 19th century sea shanties it's fine, there are people to be proud of if you look, like the Reaver (anti slavery) squadron.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

look, like the Reaver (anti slavery) squadron.

Cant find anything about this on Google. Just fictional stuff like Star Wars and Warhammer. Can you drop a link or something?

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Africa_Squadron

They weren't particularly effective and they didn't get anywhere near enough support, but they were enthusiastic and the Kru People were also major participants, as were many released or escaped slaves. It just makes me feel good, thinking about Master and Commander, but they're hunting down slavers and not French Revolutionaries.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

Oh based.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

I've been trying to deprogram the whiteness out of myself. Like I resent the fucking concept of whiteness and what it has done to me personally and the world generally. Fuck racists for thinking I share any common bond with them based on some phrenology-ass category.

Maybe it sounds weird, but I've found it helps to focus on my actual ethnic "heritage".