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Why yes let’s deforest the side of a mountain so we can run down it and possibly hit trees at fatal speeds. Im fucking glad climate change is making this bougie bullshit harder to do. I went skiing once, horrible experience. Everyone in the skiing lodge was a rich white asshole and it felt like I walked into a country club, no a hitler youth recreation club. If you own a timeshare let alone an entire house at a ski resort you deserve the fucking wall!!!!

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[–] worldonaturtle@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Should isolated mountain town communities even exist though that necessitate such means of travel? Like why the fuck should anyone be living in Tahoe, Aspen, ect?

[–] The_Riddler@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hexbear when someone lives outside of an urban center:

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of mountain towns used to be mining communities. Colorado and Montana used to be hotbeds for the IWW.

[–] worldonaturtle@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The youth yearn for the mines moment. Mining is a shitty job and not a suitable industry to build a city off of.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The youth yearn for the mines moment.

What does this have to do with what I said?

Mining is a shitty job

Yes.

and not a suitable industry to build a city off of.

Uh, some of the biggest non-coastal cities in the world were built around mining.

[–] worldonaturtle@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And how sustainable is this industry? Under a planned economy mines would be phased out, all those mining towns, the people relocated into the city, retrained to clean toilets or something. Mining towns should be abandoned not turned into tourist traps.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

mining is perfectly sustainable provided the thing they're digging up is valued/prioritized high enough. thing about closed mines is they're never actually "picked clean", they're picked to the extent that labor & technology made it profitable at the time. in the USSR mining continued, and the miners got better working conditions & more vacation time. they also didn't have to worry about the price of bauxite falling a cent & having to close the mine.

but mining towns actually should have a sustained presence afterward because mine-holes leak and require remediation for decades, which is more manageable with some leftover infrastructure

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Idk why you took my comment as a defense of the mining industry I was just pointing out why there are towns out in bumfuck mountainous areas.

But I would point out, 1) full communism is a ways off and until then we're probably gonna have to keep mining shit. It ain't like China doesn't haven't any mines.

And 2) there's still a lot of infrastructure in rural areas that requires some people live out there and those people generally want actual communities to live in not work camps, so I think this idea a lot of leftists have where we can clear out the entire country save for like 5 or 6 cyberpunk mega cities and make everything else a giant nature reserve isn't really as viable as most people think, least not in any near future

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

uhh there's normal towns in mountains. stuff like pastoralists, high-altitude agriculture, mines, forestry, without getting into any modern tourist/recreation bs

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 16 points 11 months ago

Snow-bound isn’t “isolated mountain town” necessarily

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

A lot of those isolated mountain communities serve railways, at least they do in Canada. Jasper has a busy railyard and there's main line that goes right by Banff. Same with a bunch in BCs interior.