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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 225 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (47 children)

Outdoor cat: "today I killed 300 birds and permanently altered the local ecosystem"

Indoor cat: "hehe I shit in a box"

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago (13 children)

And so begins a new battle in the eternal war between Americans with indoor cats and others with outdoor cats.

It's pretty difficult to actually find an indoor cat in the UK. In the US it's common.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 110 points 9 months ago

Of course it is difficult to find an indoor cat, you only see them inside a house.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

I guess we in Finland are Americand now lol

We're more worried about the cats wellbeing though than the birds.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Which is fitting because, in the end, when the hell have the British cared about the fallout of anything they do

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[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Our cats are indoors. They used to be outdoors then some cunt shot one with an air rifle.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hope you found the miscreant and shot them in the arsehole with a cricket bat!?

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My neighbour at the time was a lovely rough diamond type with a big knife scar down his face. He said he had an idea who it might have been and was going to have words.

We moved out of that area not long after.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 12 points 9 months ago

We moved out of that area not long after.

…burying the bodies.

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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm not so sure both about Americans having their cats indoors, and "others" having it the opposite way. I have never been to the UK or the US, but most owners I had seen kept their cats indoors. Except for Georgia (the country), where cats seem to be treated as some sort of weed that grows on it's own

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[–] dudinax@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

There's plenty of Americans with outdoor cats.

[–] BB69@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So are all the birds dead in the UK

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Nope. And the RSPB doesn't believe cats are a concern:

The UK’s largest bird charity, the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB), is not particularly concerned about the impact of cats on the British mainland.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/14/cats-kill-birds-wildlife-keep-indoors

And a Bristol study found cats kill the "doomed" weak and sick birds - not healthy birds: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1474-919X.2008.00836.x

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Cats have also been around in the UK significantly longer than many other places. Here in Hawaii they’re a plague on native species that had no such predators before.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a big part of the difference. Cats in the old world are probably fine since everything there has evolved alongside them. But the native species in the Americas haven't had housecats to worry about until relatively recently in evolutionary terms.

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I'm a outdoor cat person but in fairness one issue to consider is that while cats are natural in Europe, their current numbers and general location are something that's pretty unnatural. I definitely err on the side of not being concerned about it, but I do think it's something to consider as people have more pets.

Personally I have one cat that has brought in a single frog, and another that exclusively brings in recycling.

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[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes, according to the RSPB habitat destruction from expanding urban areas and farmland is the main threat to bird life in the UK.

When my family had a cat it would mostly catch and bring home earthworms.

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[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The UK used to have a different feline species that was native to the isles.

Its likely going extinct because of the UK obsession with outdoor cats.

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