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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The guys who claim capitalism works because a free market will create better things through competition. Guess they weren't so much for the competition stuff and just became puppets for corporations. We also have it completely legal to openly bribe politicians which makes zero fucking sense, except we call it lobbying so it somehow becomes okay.

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only pure liberals think leaving the free market by itself with minimal regulation is a good thing. Capital attracts capital and becomes basically a snowball.

But is the solution a market controlled by a centralized entity? You just pointed out politicians can also be corrupted. So... Giving more power to an entity that can be corrupted is the solution?

The problem is corruption. Any system you can propose can be fucked up by corruption. The justice system, politicians and government can be corrupted under any system because they are human.

If I'm wrong, just propose any system and I'll tell you how it crumbles because of corruption.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ideally that's where democracy is supposed to kick in, to stomp out corruption when it occurs. Obviously that's not what's happening and we don't have a democracy anyways. Especially with bribing being completely legal.

[–] fruitywelsh@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only thing worse than free market capitalism is state sponsored. Decades of the fed flooding the big banks with capital to loan, taxes taken from everyone but the largest corps, and regulatory capture (see copy right for this topic), and we get corporations that demand difficult anti trust actions just to slow down.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not a black and white system, it's not one or the other. Every system will have aspects of both in them.

[–] fruitywelsh@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thats not true there are systems that are non-market, non-capitalist, and non-statist.