this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2024
40 points (90.0% liked)
Fediverse
28380 readers
1023 users here now
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!
Rules
- Posts must be on topic.
- Be respectful of others.
- Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
- Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.
Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
From previous interactions with the author, I am convinced he is not really interested in the growth of the fediverse and is more than willing to sacrifice anything if it keeps it small and on the fringes. As much as I try to steelman his arguments, I can not find a good reasoning. At best, it is just a reactionary attempt to keep the fediverse exclusive to some minority. At worst, it becomes a way to submit everyone into a ESG-compliance racket. "Nice instance you have over there, it would be a shame if it was marked as the home of nazis..."
No, as the article says at the very beginning, it's that I think a big reason that fediverse isn't growing is its failure to deal with safety.
This is the type of argument that makes you less credible, because even if I take what you are saying at face value it shows how all your logic is biased. If "failure to deal with safety" was such a big impediment for mass adoption, how have come the Big Tech alternative still attract billions of users?
The Ministry of Truth, of course.
who is the judge of the server side code? what about the terrible green on white default lemmy color scheme? who is the judge of https? who is the judge of the physical infrastructure of the internet? who is the judge of wifi6?
omg it goes so deep judges everywhere judging me!!!!!!!
I have no idea what you’re trying to say.
You can immediately see who is an admin and who is not.
If you have an open instance and someone puts csam on it and reports you, you’re toast. Thats what blocklists are for and they arent new. Mastodon instances already have blocklists which every sane admin uses. They even come in different flavors.
The way this works is that certain instances „vote“ on blocks by applying blocks to certain instances and if one, multiple or all „trusted“ insrances block an address, it „federates“ through these updated lists.
good thing nobody suggested that..... And if they did it would be completely unenforceable.
Yep. But, even though I didn't suggest it, I didn't explicitly say that it didn't mean global blocklists. So I clarified it, and added a footnote with more detial.
Nonsense. Instance blocklists are used across the fediverse today. They're certainly not a perfect solution but they have the advantage of actually existing. See Blocklists in the fediverse for a lot more discussion.