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[โ€“] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bernie

How about someone who isn't over 80 years old?

[โ€“] Zworf@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good point. And a women for a change. Or even a trans woman! That would be amazing! ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€โšง๏ธ

But it is America so this won't happen :'( We can dream.

I like Bernie though, despite his age :)

[โ€“] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Being a woman or trans (not sure why you excluded trans men there) isn't a political accomplishment. Yes, it's bad that so many people vote against them just because of their gender, but similarly it's bad to vote for someone just because of their gender

[โ€“] Zworf@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I didn't think of trans men because they're men and America has already had only male presidents.

Of course it's not the only reason to vote for someone but considering women are just as suitable for the job in general and are 50% of the population and 100% of presidents have been men, it's really about time.

And really 99% of women will be better at the job than Trump.

[โ€“] NattyNatty2x4@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh please, don't act like the powers that be responsible for marginalizing women consider trans men to be men. The subtext of the conversation is supporting marginalized groups, and women are just an easy shorthand to that subtext.

No, it's not that it's not the only reason to vote for someone, it's that it's not a reason to vote for someone. Hypothetically if we could create identical clones of a person's mind, with literally the only difference between them being their gender, one doesn't get an extra pat on the back because they're a woman. It "being time" is not an argument to boost someone past their actual accomplishments. What it does show is that there's still a large contingent of the populace that are sexist enough that sex and gender matter to them. When a woman eventually becomes president, it'll be a good marker for when enough of the country sees the genders as equal, not as one needing a handicap to perform equally.

really 99% of women will be better at the job than Trump.

Lmfao you haven't met any maga women then. And there's sadly a lot of them.