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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Christmas is a European pagan tradition, really we base our holidays around seasons of which due to the importance of them also feature many religious events.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 47 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I hate that argument because the reason why it's still celebrated isn't the pagan origin but its appropriation by the Christian Church.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Except for like all the places still celebrating Yule, imbolc, halloween. If Christianity never genocided its way across Europe, we’d still be celebrating at these times with many of the same customs.

Plus if we let the Christian’s get away with stealing everything, we’d have nothing left.

But you’re right, we can do more to remove religion from government.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We don't get holidays for Yuletide, Imbolc or Halloween in North America, but we get them for Christmas and Easter, connect the dots.

[–] Flag@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Theres more to the world than just NA.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

This post is about it though

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

I'd argue the reason it's still celebrated is capitalism. Easter is more important in most Christian traditions than Christmas, but less celebrated in society. Why? Follow the money trail. Ask Coca Cola, the modernizer of Santa Claus.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

On the other hand its turned into a decedant festival of feasting and alcohol so the pagans kind of won on that one. Which is also the reason for celebrating it for all the non-christians that do.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

By that logic, if you get enough people to party on a specific day, the government will make it a holiday, right?

[–] LordArtoria@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The stoners have been trying this with 4/20 for many moons.

[–] abraxas@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

If pot were legal and socially accepted of the last century, 4/20 probably would be a holiday by now.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

Just because it was appropriated doesn't mean the original meaning is lost.