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[–] donuts@kbin.social 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, are we all stuck in some endless emperor's new clothes shit.

Can anyone honestly argue that this guy isn't either (a) super fucking dumb, (b) partially mentally deteriorated, or (c) both?

[–] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe not. Maybe he's an evil genius. He could possibly be the present...again...

Watching American politics makes me question my grasp of reality.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Your grasp of reality is fine but I would guess you haven't been in any religious circles for a while.

People still wrapped up in religion don't realize their values are hardly shared through all of society and are taught anyone outside of the circle are a breed apart. They are going to hell. Some evangelicals get misguided into thinking they can 'save' the heathens and that's where we get anti-abortion shit but that's not really what Christianity teaches.

The problems is there is just too many of them. You have all these people with these conflicting values saying they are inherently different than the non-believer so we can't ever come together.

[–] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

religious circles

I've been a member of what turned into a mega church with over 10k Members. I didn't see any insanity like that, but I'm sure I would have disagreed with something if I could have seen it.

...values hardly shared...

I'd suggest that's the whole idea behind some of this. The bad religious people think the whole problem or cause for everything wrong is that people don't subscribe to their values. I'd also argue that there is a way to do religious values correctly, but that's a much deeper thought.

That's a whole thing right there. Every group, culture, society has values that some like and some don't. I have a particular problem with the you're going to hell people. That's not at all how God represents himself in the new testament.(Christian Bible).

I'm betting Indiana's cake lady from years ago is all about swearing Trump is a religious choice, though I have no idea. I'm basing that on their bigoted (my opinion) stance she referred to as religious freedom. I fault dragging religion into an instance of just not liking gay people. I would much rather her just say that. Just be honest.

People thinking Trump is a religious choice blows my mind, and when I ask them why, I don't get much. Your mention of abortion is about it. Seems funny though, because I'd wager he's paid for a few of those based on my evaluation of his conduct.

Unrelated to trump and oversimplified, if people claim to subscribe to Christian values, they should probably follow God's model instead of acting exactly like the only group of people he condemned (Pharisees).