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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If (any ranking politician in the imperial core) really is a fascist then what resistance did they mount against his administration while he was in power?

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[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If it's anything, there's a case to be made that Hitler was often a hindrance to the Nazi party efforts and if he got taken out then he might have been replaced by someone more competent and effective. Idk enough to know the truth of that claim but I can see how it could be valid.

Then there's all the usual criticisms that come with adventurism (shout out to the RadLib I'm in a discussion with elsewhere who said "Terrorism is based! That's what we [anarchists] are all about!" - exactly the kind of mentality that had Ukrainian anarchists joining the front at the start of the civil war to oppose fascism and then turning around and joining the fascists - because they were better armed and better organised )

So what does that leave us with? It's always the same answer - agitate, educate, organise.

Fascists, who aren't of the street gang variety, are typically well organised and well supported. The only viable way of mounting a meaningful resistance to them is by having a strong party, a strong movement, and strong ties to the broader community.

It's exceedingly unlikely that there will be a pivot point of history where you can personally stop fascism with a single act. Even more unlikely that you'll be there at the right time, in the right place, with the right resources. Fascism is a systemic rot, not just the figurehead of a movement.

And it's always worth considering that even if you happen to find yourself at a pivot point in history with the right resources, the chips aren't necessarily going to fall in your favour - arguably the assassination attempt on Bolsonaro brought him mainstream attention and elevated his political career. Reagan polled markedly better after his assassination attempt. I'm not going to armchair quarterback history or anything but often there are unforeseen circumstances and unexpected consequences that come with drastic actions.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago

Oh, I'm not saying it's illegal-to-say is the only option. But that we are living in the Imperial Core, and any debate about whether or not our leader is fascist is just silly. The bad thing is happening, has been happening, and in many ways western leftists are no different than the LIB s. That became very apparent with how quickly the left hopped on the anti-mask train (We do love our trains, folks.) Now ignoring the plight of immunocompromised as we'd been ignoring the plight of the global South and every other victim of class struggle most of us virtue signal about.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

if it's anything, there's a case to be made that Hitler was often a hindrance to the Nazi party efforts and if he got taken out then he might have been replaced by someone more competent and effective.

I've heard many tales of this mythical "more competent and effective" fascist and to them I say "have you met a fascist?"

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fascists are extremely rational and effective and it's why communism lost in the 21st century and the USSR collapsed. It's why 20+ million soviet citizens were killed. Fascists fulfill their role very well, to crush the left and stabilize and reset bourgeois capitalist systems.

Fascists only seem stupid and incompetent if you listen to what they say literally and take them at their words. The things they say are absurd, but they are distractions and tools to further their aims - which they almost always achieve. Don't underestimate the right.