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There’s been a lot of buzz here about the Fairphone here lately, especially with it coming to the US.

On paper, it seems rather nice. Ethically sourced, privacy friendly stock ROM.

But the skeptic in me does say, “there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.”

What are the drawbacks of Fairphone that seem to be shunned away, or less discussed both by the company and community at large? Why shouldn’t I just buy a Pixel 7a and put GrapheneOS on it instead?

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[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Re ethical consumption, my opinion is, if you don't absolutely need a new phone (broken beyond use) don't get a new one. And then when you do get a "new" phone, get a second hand one. Fairphone may be "ethical" but it's still marketing to get you to spend money on a new device. Reusing one will always be more ethical.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m too worried about am getting a second hand phone. Who knows what the seller isn’t telling me about it.

I bought a laptop second hand and it’s only like a year old, but after getting it home you start to notice the problems. Like, randomly the keyboard stops responding.

Tech is too expensive to take risks on, but I try to keep my tech until it’s unusable.

The problem I’m facing at the moment, is that everything seems to be breaking at the same time.

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have used a few second hand phones and they've pretty much always been fine fortunately. I see it could be a bit of a risk, but if the initial cost is so much lower, does that factor in to lowering the risk too? If I get a second hand phone and it lasts me 3 years instead of 4, but costs 250 instead of 600, I'd say it's worth it. I've also used an ex-corporate second hand laptop made in 2014 for 4 years from 2018 to 2022, and only after that did it start to die. It was a Thinkpad, which may have helped it's longevity. This is circumstantial evidence I understand, but in my opinion the lower cost and less environmental damage weighs better for me than maybe having to clean/replace the keyboard or battery. Buying second hand products originally known for their high quality construction or longevity probably helps too.

Whilst looking recently for second hand pixel 6 phones, I noticed a lot of them were hardly used, some even brand new and unopened, but still being sold at 200-280 gbp instead of new price 400+ for new.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I guess my concern is getting a second hand phone and it lasting 2 months. I’m not opposed to some things second hand, but I’m not interested in second hand tech that cost any decent amount of money.