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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Comment on semantics:

I’ve heard humanity described as being composed of “self-interested, rational economic actors” to help us understand economics.

Like, we all want the eggs from the farmers’ market that were laid by the happiest hens. A farmer can assume we’re rational & self-interested when pricing her eggs so she can try to sell enough of them to make a living. $2/egg won’t fly because stores sell them so much cheaper.

Think I’m saying morally bankrupt, anti-social hoarders have rational self-interest but so do normal people like you & me. I’m fizzling out here but either way hoarding’s bad :)

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Right, but there's no term for being greedy, sociopathic, or engaging in hoarding in economics.

They fall under Orwellian double speak terms that make them complimentary, "rational self-interest, creating externalities, curtailing redundancies" etc. Language designed to turn their sins into their achievements.

Considering the central prominence of greed in our economy, it's a glaring ommission that the capitalists and economists themselves seem to have forgotten that word, or to create an economic term for greed that isn't complimentary.

They are driven almost entirely by insatiable greed, yet the term is never uttered in their earnings reports or economic news.

They seem to want the concept of greed as the pejorative it is to be forgotten entirely, despite it demonstrably being their core value.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Greed is the best descriptive word and incredibly negative as you've said. No reason to make a more negatively charged word. The tale of Midas, and others, demonstrate how destructive and harmful greed is.

Midas has always stuck with me since I first heard the tale and in a way informed who I am today, especially my political leanings.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

With the amount of people who get manipulated with sales and other tactics I don't think we can argue that humanity is composed of rational economic actors. There are some rational economic actors, but the vast majority probably isn't acting rationally with regards to their economics. And that's okay, because humans aren't rational beings first and foremost. We're primarily emotional beings. We make most of our decisions based on emotions, then we may try to rationalize our choice.

It takes a lot of effort to be rational about things.