this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2024
695 points (98.9% liked)

politics

19096 readers
3311 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Original title: Tens of thousands pack into a protest in Hamburg against Germany’s far right

Edit: The protest was ended early because the location was too small for that many people, raising concerns that e.g. paramedics couldn't quickly reach people in the centre of the crowd in case of a medical emergency.
Originally, the protest was supposed to take place in front of the town hall and not at the Jungfernstieg Boulevard, but the far right Alternative for Germany party had called on short notice for a meeting of the state legislature in the town hall. During such a meeting, protests are banned within the vicinity of it for security reasons.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] manucode@feddit.de 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In the last national election, the AfD got 10% of the vote, relatively low. Currently, they are polling at 23%, considerably higher, but far from a majority. The centre right CDU is currently leading in the polls at 31%. Together, these two parties would have a majority.

Officially, the CDU rules out any cooperation with the AfD, but such cooperation has already taken place on the local level without the local CDU politicians involved getting kicked out of the party. Overall, the CDU is probably the only major party in Germany that might consider a coalition with the AfD.

Internally, the CDU appears divided on the issue. Their current leader once talked about allowing cooperation on the local level, but backpedaled after immediate criticism from within the party (source). When polled, 53% of CDU supporters opposed any coalition with the AfD on the state level, with only 36% supporting such a coalition and the remainder being unsure (German source). I haven't found any polls regarding the local or the national level, but I'm relatively certain that support for a coalition on the national level won't be any higher among CDU supporters.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Friendly reminder that the nazis never won a majority the first time around.

[–] manucode@feddit.de 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As I said, there's a danger that the centre right might enable our contemporary Nazis. Hopefully, they listen to the majority of their voters who oppose this.

At least Daniel Günther, CDU governor of Schleswig-Holstein, the state where the CDU has its largest state level majority (43%), is quite outspoken against the AfD. While he clearly belongs to the most centrist wing of the party, his 2022 reelection victory still gives him considerable weight within the party. It also shows that cooperation with the Greens can be a winning strategy for the CDU, at least in the more populous former West Germany.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They should be intimately familiar with the results of the last time conservatives turned to fascists to try and cling to power.

[–] ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

Listening to what those people say on the news, I get the feeling they are familiar with this, they know it, but they don't care because they feel like they can profit from it. CxU parties are very far from what the "Christian" in their name would suggest.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, the Nazis didn't, but the Nazis + another fascist party did, so the issue wasn't a shortage of people who vote for fascist parties. Fascists were the majority.