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[–] startrekexplained@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Also hanging around Youtube's and Reddit's Star Trek communities (such as the now banned r/Star_Trek) has shown me that a lot of Star Trek fans simply don't get the allegories and messages of Trek, and think liberal biases and allegories are something new in the franchise. It's really bizarre. Same group of people were convinced The Orville was either apolitical or even conservative until it became aggressively pro LGBTQ in its last season, which pissed them off.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Orville literally had a gay couple of aliens as main cast from day one and had an episode with one of them in fairly graphic gay orgies. It was pretty friendly from the off. The trans allegory with the kid was McFarlane making amends for the Family Guy episode with quagmires dad.

[–] startrekexplained@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're correct, but conservative fans didn't get it until the third season (and even then some didn't get it, read the Bounding into Comics reviews of the season for example).

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd rather not go near that hive of scum and villainy if I can.

Just an example that came to mind. It said that "Tale of Two Topas" was a message against treating trans children. Talk about a bizarre interpretation of an obvious allegory toward trans rights.

[–] kickstink@mas.to 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@startrekexplained @Prouvaire it still amazes me when this comes up. How can anyone miss the point of something so badly?

I think conservatives in general have trouble understanding what allegories are. For example, some conservative fans of The Orville think its blatantly pro trans episode "Tale of Two Topas" is actually anti-trans because its wrapped in an allegory.