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[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He didn’t mention Trump or gave any indication that Trump is the solution. What are you on about in this comment??

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, I'm a democratic socialist. I primaried and phone banked for Sanders twice. I don't know where she's getting off thinking I think making the current system go full fascist is the same as starting fresh and building an equitable economy and society with social supports.

Trump loves the current system and is a direct product of it, and his prominence is a direct result of the Reagan's impact on the culture. He might as well be the current system's, that I loathe, mascot.

He's who we are, greed and greed worship incarnate, and that's the problem.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's refuting my anti-tankie points and seems to think violent revolution is the answer. Every tankie I've ever talked to was very much against voting, and particularly for Biden. Trump is Biden's likely opponent, Trump is who we get if Biden loses.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Violent revolution or collapse are the only ways things will begin to improve. Our framework is too hacked for self-repair to be possible, let alone likely. Rejecting Reagan would have been the last chance of an offramp to save the current framework.

I vote Democrat in the same way the Titanic crew kept the water pumps running, it bought a little time as they sank, it wasn't a solution. It is a desperate play to slow the descent slightly. Biden And Trump both worship the market capitalists destroying us, to slightly different degrees. Wall Street is our society's blight, DC is just a symptom of that.

"Tankies" don't own revolution and never did. Russia sucks. Putin should be assassinated. Free Palestine and Ukraine.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can respect someone who says violent revolution or collapse is the only way yet votes to protect the vulnerable however little it may matter, especially if they work toward ensuring what comes after isn't even worse. I'm of the opinion that cultural evolution is an even more powerful force and that's why so much energy is put into preventing unity of the people.

Accelerationist Xi and Putin supporting tankies though are delusional, I only argue with them because I feel they have empathy and sympathy and are mistaken on their methods.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's fair. I wish you well.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago