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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep, that's my point entirely. With the current two party system, voting third party is purely a spoiler vote without mass grassroots pressure like Unionization and winning local elections. They've argued against building up that bottom-up pressure as pointless, and instead advocated for voting third party, getting the order entirely wrong.

With the current dem/rep split, voting Democrat is what leftists should do purely as loss prevention. It's only with genuine outside, bottom-up pressure that third party could ever be viable.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Voting Democrat hurts any leftist credibilty and promotes complacency.

It will only shift the system further right. Then Right wingers will complain about whichever incompetent Democrat is in charge at the time is actually responsible and we need an incompetent Republican instead.

The longer you vote for people like Biden, the more people will believe in Trump or an even worse Fascist that will rise up.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this is certainly a take. you honestly think putting republicans in office will show "the people" how bad they are?

I literally don't think any candidate can be worse than trump. antivaxxers (who are majority repub) died in droves during the pandemic and he won lowa by a landslide.

trump is literally as incompetent as they come. but republicans are incredibly loyal and I don't believe anything short of the president commiting mass murder will change their minds.

now is not really the time for big brain takes, just vote Biden and get smashed afterwards if you want.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Voting for Biden makes you complicit in Genocide. You will become a Nazi in act by voting for Biden (or Trump). That will be the defining moment that you lose all innocence.

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

not voting doesn't mean your hands are clean. if the goal is world peace, your choice is Biden, not voting, trump.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Are you claiming Bin Laden was right?