IRK!? People don't seem to realize - nor care - that the death rate in ye olden eras was, and I am not kidding you, ~~FOURTH FIFTHS~~ edit: my apologies I was way off on the exact numbers but it was still shockingly high at 40%.

They didn't even bother to name a child until it reached 5 years of age, hence religious ceremonies celebrating a youngling reaching that age and finally become an actual "human" that was worth investing some emotion into.

There are pics of Charles Darwin as an infant in a girl's dress, in large part b/c the child that family had previously had been a girl, so it was readily available.

God Himself has killed off millions upon millions of babies for MILLENNIA, but now we lose our damn minds when people pull necrotic tissue out of wombs or remove an ectopic situation? Science illiteracy - or maybe I should say fact illiteracy - is one of the top killers in this nation, that and plain raw stupidity (obesity situations like >500lb and heart disease that goes unchecked for decades, drunk driving despite extremely easy access to both alcohol at home or rides when away, and yes deciding not to give oneself or a young child a vaccine b/c of fear of "side effects"). Except when we talk about communicable diseases (and drunk driving I suppose), THEIR decisions impact US as well. :-(

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean sure your point is well taken, but your facts are whackadoodle.

All infants wore dresses in the early 1900s and before. Teddy Roosevelt has pictures as a baby in dresses.

"God himself" -> lol shut up. Tell me about Santa's elves next.

Abortion is a different topic and while I agree with you this is a shoe horn.

Obesity is a different topic as well because WW2 government ads focused on fattening up depression era recruits and we kept it / dont really promote more affordable options, and also doctors up until 1950 told us how GOOD smoking was for you.

Basically there's good science AND evidence for getting vaccinated, there is NO evidence for religious arguments, and religion and other health problems as discussion points are a) non sequiturs and b) not as clear cut as vaccinating for polio.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I think their God arguement was a counter to those who discuss thoughts and prayers, or gods will, or God will provide, or the Bible doesn't like this.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The number I found was 40%, which is still horrifying, but not as much as 80%.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 7 points 10 months ago

Thank you very much for the correction. I don't know if I misremembered a peak rate at some particular time (perhaps when America was still a colony and lacking access to great medical care facilities) or mere statistical trickery like also including stillborn deaths (at which point it might be even higher, bc the rate of auto-abortion by the fetus itself in the very early stages of pregnancy when no symptoms are yet showing I thought was unknown, though later on when pregnancy becomes detectable it is said to be 30-40%) or what, but I edited my response to avoid spreading misinformation.

[–] I_Clean_Here@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I Row Knight