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[–] Beefytootz@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel you, I'm pro death penalty for shit like this, rapists, and pedos as well. Unfortunately with how broken our system is in the US, somehow the death penalty costs more than just keeping them alive on a life sentence. Unlimited appeals drawing out the court process, which costs money to have everyone involved there. If it were as simple as just taking them out back and blasting them, sure, but that's not what we've put in place

[–] Pucksuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you're perfectly fine with the government fast-tracking death penalty investigations which will lead to innocent people being killed by the state just to save a buck and satisfy your fucked up, over emotional sense of justice?

[–] Beefytootz@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not at all, but it's cute that you tried to project that shit opinion onto me. I think murderers, rapists, and pedophiles are a waste of air and resources and need to be put down like a rabid dog. I don't agree with putting your trust into a government authority to make that call. I understand that not every case is going to be open/shut and that human error exists and people like to lie about things. I don't have an answer for a perfect solution to remove those types of people from society. Some people can't be rehabilitated and the loss needs to be cut before it impacts anyone else. Our current system is fucked entirely. Cops are fucked, politicians are fucked, and now we have people advocating for rapists, murders, and pedophiles as if they're capable of being human. I'm not calling for the death penalty for stealing or public disturbance. I'm specifically saying for those three things, murder, rape, and the abuse of children, should be punishable by death. You seem to disagree with that and would prefer that those types of people continue living and breathing our air. What a shame.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

As long as you can prove 100%

[–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Agreed.

More money to investigations and less money to pretend humane ways to kill people. The only humane way to kill someone is a shot to the cerebellum, any other way is just a way to make the assholes killing someone and those watching feel better about themselves, it doesn't positively impact those being executed at all.

Even the "most humane" lethal injection is one of the worst ways to kill someone that I know of, and after several years in the military I would choose the actually humane option of a bullet over ANY dipshit politicians push for their incompetent and clearly inhumane suggestions that exist purely to profit chemical corporations.

[–] Beefytootz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Problem is, we can't currently trust the people that are making those decisions. Cops, courts, and politicians have proven time and time again that they can't be trusted. The other thing I'd like to touch on, why would it need to be humane? It's a punishment, a deterrent. It should be reserved for the worst crimes imaginable, and it should be scary and awful to go through. Let them starve, deprive them of oxygen, drown them, light them on fire, let the victims/survivors go at the perpetrator with a clawed hammer. Punishments are meant to be awful, it's to keep people from doing it in the first place.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 1 points 10 months ago

The problem, as has become crystal clear over the past few decades is that our police force demonstrably cannot be trusted to solve crimes correctly.

In fact, they will often knowingly lie to gain a conviction of an innocent person.

When that is clearly, obviously happening and being documented, applying the death penalty isn't moral - the state is failing in its responsibility.