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Wrong, readsettlers.org
Edit: this seemed to confound a lot of people, so maybe a bit more explanation. When people say that immigrants to the US were looking for "a better way of life" it suggests that they are fleeing a life of hardship and poverty. This is wrong when talking about the "early" white settler immigrants to the US, a period which still spans a couple centuries. And the later, white working class immigrants still looked for ways to profit off slavery and genocide, the "better life" for them was built on stolen land and labor. It's nothing like the current immigrants to the US which the GOP loudly and the Dems quietly look to oppress.
your text seems to agree 100% with one of the examples in the original posts text: ”[…] immigrants who […] simply sought better lives for themselves and their descendants“.
could you elaborate why you think it is wrong?
They cannot really comprehend the glaring "OR"s in the sentence.
They didnt flee persecution. Also the "better life" was built on the back of slaves, which seems a bit disingenous phrasing.
Edit I guess the point is that the people coming to steal land and genocide peoples aren't like the immigrants today, its a false equivalence
Edit2 also the first line literally disagrees with that
What about the Irish?
The entire comment is unmitigated bullshit. Think about it; it uses the years 1654-85 as a representative sample of European immigrants to North America, but that's absurd because we know for a fact that mass immigration from Europe didn't really start until the 19th century so it can't be even remotely true that most white Americans are descendants of the immigrants they use in their sample. It's shoddy and intellectually dishonest scholarship that's obviously and almost comically pushing an agenda. As such it doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
Everything they've said is blatant propaganda word salad that they're regurgitating completely out of context.
The problem isn't the immigrants themselves that are coming to steal land or kill people, it's their children. One that comes to mind is Donald Trump whose mother was an immigrant.
So, one part of what the original post is wrong according to your source. Not the whole thing.
Some surely did. Among those who definitely did not flee persecution were the Pilgrims, those flew from not being able to persecute.
"some" sure, but definitely not "almost all" as the post says.
OP's post says "or".
1654-85? Really? And you honestly think that timeframe gives a representative sample of European immigrants to North America? Really? That's the stupidest thing I've read all day. Mass immigration didn't even start until the 19th century for fucks sake, nearly 200 years later. Sometimes Lemmy really sucks ass.
Wtf is a Yeomen Husbandmen? Some sort of gay Beowolf? Maybe something to do with Kanye?
Husbandry. The art of matching up young people into blessed relationships.
A Yeoman was a type of anime cosplay popular at the time.
seriously tho LMGTFY:
Small land-holder. Not a titled lord, but also not a peasant per se.
Being of middle-class standing doesn't invalidate that they were seeking adventure, opportunity, or freedom. What a strange conclusion to arrive at.
Found the troll. 🤦🏽♂️