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This community was migrated to !linguistics@mander.xyz (Kbin link).

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UPDATE, 2024/JAN/17: this address has been locked so mods only can post. Use the new one.


This comm is being moved to !linguistics@mander.xyz (Lemmy link) or /m/linguistics@mander.xyz (Kbin link). Same old topic, same old rules, same old mod. Different instance, focused on sciences. That's it.

A few additional points:

  • Since the new instance only defederates other two instances, access shouldn't be a concern.
  • I'll keep modding both addresses concurrently, until 19/February/2024 (August Schleicher's birthday), to give people enough time to migrate. In the meantime you can post in either but I'd like to ask users to use the !linguistics@mander.xyz address instead.

If you believe that it's worth keeping !linguistics@lemmy.ml as a separated community, and wishes to moderate it, please say so in this thread. Or wait until the migration is over and ask lemmy.ml admins, whichever you prefer.

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seems to be a big exodus from Lemmy.ml all of a sudden.

About time.

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop, anywhere I can read more about what's going on?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I can't say what final straw is driving this exodus of moderators. But lemmy.ml has had a consistent problem with admins repeatedly banning users who post anything political that does not align with their questionable "communist" interests, and supporting mods that further those interests.
I should know, after all they used obscure, unexplained "rule 1/2" violations to 14-day ban me about 4 separate times on my old instance for comments that I thought were fairly benign and civil, but did conveniently take an antiChina or antiRussia stance. (Check the modlog on lemmy.ml directly for empireOfLove@lemmy.one)

Just overall, it's run poorly and is falling into the same huge moderator powertrip that ruined Reddit. People should not be using it as a serious instance if possible.

You might even see this comment get removed and this account banned as well. That alone will tell you all you need to know about how .ml is run.

[–] cerulean_blue@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still don't fully get Lemmy... If lemmy.ml is bad, which instance is good? I miss the serious political and science discussions on Reddit and have not found them here on Lemmy.ml

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's tons of instances available. Personally I really like lemmy.dbzer0.com these days because it is much more libertarian (as in liberty and freedom of information, not American conservatism's idea of "libertarianism").
And really it comes down to which instances and communities you choose to interact with, and less of which instance your account is on, as you can talk to the entire Fediverse from any instance.

[–] cerulean_blue@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks. But how do I find these good instances in the first place?! I think this is a big barrier to Lemmy adoption, it's too difficult for newbies to get setup and find communities they are interested in.

Edit: I've just found !trendingcommunities@feddit.nl

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Trending communities helps. I often just look through a big comment section and see what instances pop up in people's usernames.

The lemmy public site also has an instance browser that captures most of the larger active instances... https://join-lemmy.org/instances

[–] WFloyd@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the explanation!

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for such a late reply.

I'm not sure if I'm part of this big exodus or not. I've been toying with the idea of migrating this comm for months, as lemmy.ml is focused on open source and privacy while mander.xyz is focused on sciences. It'll be more discoverable there, it'll be easier to access it across the Fediverse, and it'll be easier to be on the same page as the admins when it comes to the rules.

The straw that broke the camel's back, for me, was not even politics. Or even which sort of content they allow/deny in their instance. It was how they handled another lemmy.ml community; it shows that they're completely unprepared as a team to handle users in an acceptable way.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Well, I think the reason you are leaving is a compounding problem. The admin's poor (or intentionally poor) handling of mod abuses across communities only amplifies any political tilt they have on either side.