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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

isn't that subject to the same criticism in the post I replied to, that a snapshot of something from history being a net benefit is not a justification of its current worth?

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly what I'm saying though. In my humble opinion it has greatly outlived its worth, but the fact it had worth in the first place means statements like "what good has it ever done" are wrong, because even under a critical lense where it's no longer needed, it has done good in the past.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

its not "wrong" to ask a question polemically — I was expecting an answer like "made iPhones" and I could respond with how the expansion of technology has always been firstly a socialistic act, followed by captialism enshittifying it, from running water indoors to the steam engine to pharmaceuticals to electricity to the internet and infact patent expiration is usually tied to an explosion in technological innovation.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's fair. It just never helps to be hyperbolic around the pedantic assholes that capitalist apologists can be. There are certainly good things that came from capitalism, and if a Marxist can see that, then the apologist certainly can too, and that'll just make them feel as if they can write off whatever you say.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

It’s true, I did write off what he said!