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Employees that get fired over dumb-ass CEO decisions should be able to sue the crap out of the company. Let's make it easier to kill the companies that do this shit.
So you're calling for 100% layoffs?
Ah right. Gotta continue letting them get away with whatever they want or we might hurt the bottom line. This thinking is part of why we're here.
Where?
edit I'm seriously asking. What is extraordinary about this?
edit Also,
What do you think killing a company does to its employees?
In a state where corporatism dominates everything and the reins are minimal. We allow corporate A to get away with more than we deem appropriate for the sake of preserving the bottom line. This gives them leverage to do it again and again or to intensify. It also showcases to corporation B that this abuse is at an apparent acceptable threshold, with room to probably get away with a bit more. It's an abusive cycle that will continue to demolish the well being of more and more people until proper reins are put in place.
What are you suggesting? That corporations shouldn't hire and fire people or that corporations shouldn't exist at all? What would replace them?
Statistical detail: Unity had about 4000 employees in 2020, apparently 7200 before these layoffs. So they're now going down to 5400, which is roughly their 2021 numbers.
They're suggesting regulating corporations properly.
What kind of regulation that's currently missing would you have applied in this case?
I'm not the one who suggested regulations. For me, corporations shouldn't exist at all.
Oh ok, what would you replace them with?
Cooperatives, employee-owned companies, etc.
You know that those things are not illegal in capitalist economies, right? Many even exist.
Yes, so?
what have regulation ever solved? they just make everything more expensive and difficult for the people actually driving progress, unlike you dirty parasite... oh wait, we aren't in a libertarian Ayn Rand cosplay, are we?
Well, currently you guys in US (and also we in EU in many ways) seem to have two styles of governing corporations: bailouts & less regulation and bailouts & more regulation. I agree that less regulation combined with bailouts is worst of all worlds. We should have no bailouts and as little regulation as possible.
Not that bailouts have anything to do with Unity really, it was just the most immediate thing I remembered that clearly doesn't work well with less regulation as demonstrated by subprime mortgages in late 2010s for instance.
you do realize that this isn't an Ayn Rand cosplay convention... right?
the "no bailouts and as little regulation as possible" is a fairy tale, unless you think that bombing the families of striking coal miners was a good thing.
PS: the no bailout/regulation shtick comes from the idea that you somehow are unaffected by the actions of others
Perhaps you should re-read your Ayn Rand or libertarian manifestos if you think anyone in those cliques thinks bombing of anyone is legal. Or perhaps I'm not understanding what you're referring to. Please enlighten me.
oh, wait until I tell you about the NAP, no bombing anyone that so much as annoys you is completely within their manifesto, let alone strikers.
Ok, I'll wait.
You are correct in that numbers leading into Covid rose dramatically and started to fall off over the last, I wanna say, year and a half or so. Still larger than before. I do not have anything against hiring and firing on a by need basis. However, I do think that's gone too far in this instance. When you have 15-20k people being let go at multiple organizations, there's something wrong with the decision process in the first place imo.
What do you mean?