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[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well, it did win the nobel prize for being multifaceted

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah for treating different kinds of parasites not viruses

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it is used as a horse dewormer, it is a veterinary medicine used to kill parasites.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But we're talking about humans, this narrative is weird and misleading

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Not really. The whole thing started because people were buying it from farm supply stores where it was being sold for animal usage

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

1- they're not buying the human pills, because those require a prescription and don't actually work against Covid.

2- the tubes of medication they ARE buying are from veterinary stores, and the main purpose is indeed to deworm horses. There's a horse on the package and everything.

3- the name stuck, because the people taking ivermectin to stop Covid were/are a bunch of antivax morons deserving of much more than merely scorn and ridicule for the number of deaths on their hands.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But it's used on humans on a massive scale, calling it horse dewormer is misleading

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not misleading in either accuracy or implication. It is not inaccurate to say it is horse dewormer, it is also not misleading to imply it is as effective as using horse dewormer.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It implies that's it's main use, which it's isn't. We give gorillas birth control but you don't see people calling the birth control women take "gorilla birth control" that's just silly

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A distinction without difference. So what if it has other uses? None of them are more effective against COVID as it's use as horse dewormer. Again, it isn't misleading in fact or implication.

The people using the horse dewormer are silly, calling it horse dewormer brings light to that fact.

I think the problem with your analogy is that it isn't analogous. The flaw is that the drug is used as a contraceptive in both species, so it has similarity in use, you'd be silly calling it gorilla contraceptive because it is effective as a contraceptive. If people started taking gorilla contraceptive to cure cystic fibrosis (actually analogous) call it gorrilla contraceptive to mock them all you want.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a human dewormer is what I'm getting at. It cures many diseases caused by parasites, in humans. It absolutely is analogous because humans use it for parasites and diseases caused by parasites. It won the nobel prize for human use, not horse use.

[–] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I feel you're missing the point, OK, I grant all of what you said is true and it doesn't change anything. COVID isn't a parasite. Therefore, it is just as effective against COVID as snake oil, or horse dewormer. To imply it is useless in the case of COVID by labelling it as such is not misleading at all.

Going back to your analaogy. If a person is using the contraceptive as a contraceptive then calling it "gorrilla birth control" I agree is silly. However if the person is using the contraceptive to cure cystic fibrosis, then the person is silly and to call it "gorrilla birth control" would be a fun way of highlighting that fact. It could even be an award winning contraceptive of you like, wouldn't change anything.

Please listen to what I'm saying, if I can accept all of what you say is true and it doesn't disagree with my point then we are not having a conversation. You are talking past me and it's silly.