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Someone is truly in here going nerd The hundreds of people gunned down daily is really a small percentage of the population so it's all just scaremongering. Several dozen people are upvoting it. I think I'm done with hexbear for a bit. Thanks for the fun posts, everyone

Being a child is criminalized. And the children are suffering. The point of childhood anymore doesn't seem to enjoy some innocence and learn life lessons and make mistakes in a loving or caring environment where you're shielded from most of the consequences. The purpose of childhood is to mold you into an ideal member of the proletariat. And to never ever misbehave, because the Eye in the Sky (whether that's your parents or the police state) is always watching and you'd better get used to it.

I've talked about the atrocious state of childrens' rights in this country, and had some really good discussion here about it. It's only getting worse. Don't walk or bike home from school, wait for your parent to come get you in an SUV. Don't go skateboarding, you hooligan. Don't hang out with friends or other kids in the neighborhood with only the admonition of being back before dark. Don't drink a beer, even as an adult- you'll go to jail. Don't host a party, you'll go to jail. Don't have awkward teenage sex. Don't go hang out downtown or explore the woods, you'll be raped and abducted and sold into slavery! Just stay home, on your phone where it's safe.

I fucking hate this. This shit honestly makes me despair more than climate change. I'm not sure why that is, obviously what we're doing to the climate could well spell the end of human civilization. I think I'm just really upset at this very clear, yet less dramatic impact of living in a fascist society. Being a child is criminalized.

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[–] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's not making it in the most diplomatic way, but he has a point. Schools should not be doing active shooter drills, the actual threat much lower than the damage caused by excess fear. Cable news should not be boosting every school shooting that does happen into the stratosphere, because all it does is create more fear and inspire copycats. Nevertheless the US should have adequate gun control laws, because most of the 70K yearly victims of gun violence in our country could be saved if only we gave a damn.

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Schools should not be doing active shooter drills

I disagree with this still because it smacks of “we shouldn’t be wearing masks because the fear of the pandemic is worse than the pandemic” type stuff

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

masks are not a miracle preventative but they are effective, minimally inconvenient, and you are very likely to get and spread COVID without them. Unlike masks, "hardening" schools, giving teachers guns, and making kids do random active shooter drills with cops pretending to be shooters does real harm, and it's not nearly as clear that it does any good. As we saw at Uvalde most of this stuff is security theater. I graduated high school in 2016 and thought that school shootings were so rare that it wasn't worth worrying about it besides very basic prep like having some sort of lockdown procedure. Same type of thing as a tornado or fire drill, do it once a year and then no reason to think about it.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I was thinking about that exact example today

Covid - The risk of contracting covid is high. The consequences; the risk of death is low, the risk of injury is high. Wearing a mask is a very easy intervention that isn't burdensome for most people but drastically reduces all of these risks, to near zero if you're using a proper N95 or better mask and it fits properly.

School shootings - The risk of a school shooting is extremely low. The consequences are high; somewhere between 1-30 dead, likely a number of injuries. "Hardening" a school is extremely burdensome, causes real, provable, and serious harm to children and staff, and isn't actually effective at preventing or reducing the harm of school shootings. "School Resource Officers" are the most damning example; SROs haven't prevented a single shooting in 24 years, but they have condemned a million children to jail or prison. I have no numbers for this, but I imagine just the number of suicides resulting from having armed cops in schools vastly exceeds the number of people killed in school shootings during the entire period from the Colombine murders til today.

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I just got the impression that we shouldn’t have any drills. I understand making it a once a year thing like fire or tornado drills

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The way drills are conducted is outright terrorism. Sitting kids down for thirty minutes to explain what to do; Go in to your classroom, sit on the floor, be quiet, listen to your teacher, use texts instead of making phone calls, and wait for an all clear, then doing a quick, straightforward exercise to demonstrate what to do, would be acceptable.

Having cops running around the place firing guns and explosives is absolutely unacceptable terrorism. "random drills" in general aren't effective and shouldn't be done.

[–] WithoutFurtherBelay@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Having cops running around the place firing guns and explosives is absolutely unacceptable terrorism. "random drills" in general aren't effective and shouldn't be done.

HUH

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

All but 69 students have gone home for the day on early dismissal. These volunteer victims, mostly culled from the school’s drama class, are outfitted in fake-bloody bullet wounds, still wet and dripping down their foreheads, necks and chests. Bowen tells them what to expect: They’ll see “bad guys with AR-15s” shooting blanks during a simulated “passing period”—the moments when one class ends and the other begins. PVC pipes will be dropped on the floor to approximate IEDs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fake-blood-blanks-schools-stage-active-shooter-drills-n28481

yeah it's gotten WAYYY more fucked up since I was in school. that part is just about terror, nobody thinks we need fake fires to do fire drills