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Seeing a big “politics” community in both lemmy.ml and lemmy.world just confuses me as to which I should be subscribing to and I don’t really want to subscribe to both.

Guess this is just a downside of federated instances? There’ll never just be one “/r/politics” on Lemmy?

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'd like to point out what just happened to !android@lemmy.world.

It was closed and migrated to another instance explicitly to keep things from being "spread out".

It also happens that the instance it was moved to has extremely overbearing moderation that effectively prevents actual discussion. It's so "curated" that everything is segregated into hyper specific feeds, everything except "official" news is removed, and no one is contributing because of the overbearing rules (no questions, no memes, no "rants" i.e. don't make opinion posts).

It's controlled by the "experienced" moderation team from /r/Android, that subreddit that would get like one or two posts a day that weren't removed. It was strangled. We are supposed to defer to it this "experienced" team, hence why the lemmy.world instance has been locked. Now that instance sits pretty as having thousands of subscribers, and that will hurt the growth of smaller android groups because people gravitate towards the biggest ones and the second biggest one on lemmy.world is locked.

In essence, forced centralization. This is exactly what federation was supposed to prevent. Subverted in less than a two weeks since those communities formed.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 7 points 1 year ago

I think in that case the "forced" centralisation is purely constructed. There are no mechanisms preventing somebody from creating an android community in their own instance and federating it with lemmy.world. Even if !android@lemmy.world is permanently locked, that fact isn't really a barrier to entry for another android community to pop up, just that that community was able to establish a subscriber base over time but I don't see why another android community couldn't do the same given some time, especially if the available android communities at the moment are locked and restricted.

[–] shrugal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Imo admins should not allow the lockdown of a community on one instance in favor of the one on another. It's fine if the original mod wants to switch, but then just get someone else to mod the community or close it down until someone decides to claim it again.