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[–] darkseer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The original definition of capitalism used to be an economy where 90% of businesses and property are privately owned. And while I admit that the meaning of words tend to change over time I think that the meaning of capitalism was deliberately changed so that the Soviet Union doesn't sound as insane as it was to future generations. L

[–] CaptainMinnette@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Original definition according to who? Best I can tell from reading the literature, the definition in the public sphere was changed to this definition in the 20th century. Papers wrote of state capitalism in the 1880s. By the 1890s in Germany, the idea had already arisen that perhaps state socialism isn't possible as it will always become state capitalism.

[–] darkseer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's strange, but I distinctly remember three different school books giving that exact definition. Yet, when I looked up the etymology for the word it said that it started out as a disparaging French word for money lender and was picked up by the British to describe anyone who made money in enterprise.

[–] animelivesmatter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that the meaning of capitalism was deliberately changed so that the Soviet Union doesn't sound as insane as it was to future generations.

That's certainly a claim. One I've never heard before. You should probably provide a source for that, because that sound like bullshit.

Besides, I don't think calling the Soviet Union "state capitalist" downplays how bad they were, especially when that's coming from a leftist.

[–] darkseer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Decided to do some research after your questions. Turns out the word was used/coined by the French as a derogatory word for money lenders was co opted by the British later as a derogatory word for anyone involved in manufacturing and other base enterprises. And then some economists in the 80s and 90s tried to redefine it and even wrote that dedinition into some Social Studies and Economy textbooks that I remember reading throughout my life in school.