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it seems like the anti-natalist mindset is starting to take root in /r/Philippines and would like to hear what the fediverse has to say about it

Disclaimer : I'am a proponent of anti-natalism mainly cause of how messed up things have gotten from economy , politics and even societal norms I don't necessarily wish for the extinction of the human race but rather for a paradigm shift on how we can break free from the infinite growth mindset given that we live in a finite world

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[โ€“] ako946659663@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The society that we know of are not kind to parents.

  1. Sobrang mahal ng bilihin so need na dual income. Very rare ako nakakakita ng may stay at home parent, unless OFW yung isang parent. Flipside, hindi mo mapapalaki on your own anak mo, which is sad.
  2. Ang hirap maghanap ng child minders, I was very surprise to know that the minimum yaya wage as per my peers are at PhP10,000+benefits per month. At nagya-yaya poaching din mga parents once na malaman na maayos yaya.
  3. Hindi uso daycare sa Pinas, at kung meron man, malamang hindi masusundo ng nasa tamang oras sa hirap ng transport.
  4. Napaka-mahal ng tuition. Madami naman din maayos na public schools pero chambahan din na walang bully or maayos yung turo at matuto makabasa anak mo.

Though govt benefits for maternity care are quite good (thank you Mama Risa), pero parang your own your own na after mo manganak.

[โ€“] decadentrebel@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The society that we know of are not kind to parents.

Not only that pero napaka-toxic din kasi ng mga Filipinos sa parents/kids.

I get it, anti-natalist kayo (not you OP) and may issues with children mostly out of your own horrible experiences with them โ€” your parents being shitty, your family giving you shit for not having one, unruly kids bothering you at the coffee shop when you want peace of mind, and so on. But that doesn't mean you should continue the cycle and be similarly grouchy and hold unhealthy opinions of every other family you encounter.

That parent seemingly laughing at their kid horsing around in a public setting? For all we know they're filled with shame, puyat, and just putting a brave face because they don't want to be that type of parent that scolds children regardless if that type of discipline worked for you. They brought them to that restaurant probably because they're hungry and needed air, and couldn't afford a yaya, and they don't have family members to babysit by committee.

If you don't have the resources to properly provide for the child then why make one in the first place? Everyone has their reasons for childbearing, I'm not going to touch on that. That said, not everyone had the same privileges but they were able to make it work. My parents didn't take care of me as a kid, but I'm here. My grandparents were poor as shit and managed to send their kids to college and live the rest of their lives in comfort as a result, and that's why I exist. My friends, co-workers, relatives, they all make me wonder how they manage to raise kids at their salary and this economy, but they're doing okay. You, fellow lemmings, I would hazard a guess, started (or still are) not well-off either. But your parents made it work.

Yes, may shitty parents na walang pakialam, selfish, and has whack priorities, and that's infuriating โ€” but just like with cops, communists, LGBT, men, drivers, etc. we don't judge them by their worst. And by relegating parenthood sa "may kaya lang" is once again an elitist viewpoint that turns us into a class-style society.