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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Every police chase is a danger to innocent people's lives. Some chases are necessary, but a broken taillight is not worth that risk.

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[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In my country the rules are simple. It's your car, so you're responsible.

The owner should've fixed the broken taillight, not the current driver.

[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What country? Do you have annual inspections? That's easily the right answer to a busted taillight question :)

[–] foofiepie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

In the UK, you would receive a letter with the details of the infraction. You can nominate someone else who was driving at the time but it defaults to the car’s registered owner.

And we have annual inspections (the MOT) or your insurance is invalid. You have to be taxed and insured or your car gets impounded.

Does the US not have annual inspections?

Quick edit: This is for things like speeding and other offences caught on camera. I doubt this would apply to a broken light as in the OP.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Same in Belgium and I assume most civilized countries. Either your car is stolen or it is not. If it is, you legally have to disclose that. If it is not, then "maybe I wasn't the one driving but I'm not going to tell you ;) ;) ;)" is a bullshit excuse, and everyone knows it. You know it, the person you replied to knows it, the judge knows it.

I think there's a whole-ass essay to be written on the Americans' relationship to law that leads them to using the stupidest legal arguments like some kind of arcane ward... and actually succeeding.

Hot take: we make fun of sovereign citizens but "speed cameras are unenforceable if you don't have a 4K picture of me at the wheel of what is unambiguously my car" is basically the same thought process.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

In the US inspections are controlled by each state. Some have yearly, some have basically none, and everything in between like only during change of ownership.