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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yet what is happening now will only cause more radicalisation or the death of most Palestinians. After the brutality Israel has shown those 2 are the only possible outcomes.

Also the leadership of Hamas isn't in Gaza so not much chance of them dieing.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Hamas leaders not in Gaza don't need to die, they need to be severed from the strip which is done by taking out the top leadership which Israel has been doing well so far. They even nabbed an IRGC leader the other day. Those people's day's are numbered and they know it.

It's happening, it's not going to happen quickly though. Didn't happen quickly after WW2 either. Long game.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are going to run out of Palestinians before they run out of Hamas at this rate though that may be by design.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well Hamas has made it very clear they don't consider the lives of Palestinians to be their responsibility so sadly you might be right. They'll sacrifice every one there before giving up the power they're hanging on to. Seeing people raid aid trucks makes me hopeful they're starting to turn on Hamas but I'm also seeing videos of Hamas shooting people taking aid supplies so hopefully they'll run out of bullets before they run out of people so the civilians can access some of that aid.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course they don't, they are a terrorist organisation but funnily enough Israel has been more dangerous to the people of Gaza than the terrorists so far and this conflict is way older than Hamas.

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hamas is just the latest face of Islamic jihadism, the conflict goes back to the origins of Islam, sadly they've been killing Jews since thousands of years before the modern Israel was established you're right. This issue will never go away so long as jihadists and Islamists are ruling over there. I was hopeful that the Abraham accords would continue to bring peace to the area but Iran obviously couldn't let that happen so here we are.

Hamas' current actions and those that precipitated the Israeli response makes Hamas more dangerous than the Israelis. Once Hamas stops firing rockets and gives up the hostages Israel will stop its bombing campaign. Seems like that was what the Arab Nations put forward the other day but Hamas rejected it..... further endangering the people in Gaza sadly. I just hope this ends soon and with minimal more lives lost.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Those hostages may just be safer with Hamas right now, Israeli forces may mistake them for surrendering Palestinians again and shoot them. Though than again they have a good change to dying to Israeli bombs as well.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You are drinking the propaganda by the mouthful

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm just echoing what Hamas leadership is saying.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

You are echoing what Zionists are saying