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yeah i downloaded my reddit history. there are still reddit archives run by third parties that save everything indexed to usernames i think , you might be able to search the old stuff like that.
I will try to sort through all my reddit crap at some point and maybe post stuff thats useful as blog or publish a magazine or something. Im trying to exit the internet 95% over the next 2 years and get my anti-doomsday cult going fully in real life.
internet is such a shitshow that i realized its mostly just a negative in every way now. i dont know what its good for at this point.
At this point i would just prefer interacting with people in more direct ways. im writing off everyone not in my future tribe of back to the land revolutionaries plotting the destruction of the status quo and birth of alternatives.
"blog or publish a magazine or something" - I hope you do.
"anti-doomsday cult" - I really need to get more money so that I can buy land in Western WA with other people.
Im looking mostly in oregon. the plan is set up co-op situation mixture of community and personal land bulk buy for lower price per acre. west coast is mostly overpriced though on a per unit of bioproductivity basis so still considering other spots. underground weed economy crash is bringing lots of cheap per acre properties on market though
How are you going to screen the applicants?
I'm open to suggestions. A lot of it will just be people i've known for long enough to know their quirks and dependability so i can get things started like that.
From what ive seen with communities that have any longevity they seem to converge upon similar process.
1.some type of contact like phone call/email/application figuring out if they seem sane and functional enough to have that basic interaction . this screens out some nuts and gets info for criminal background checks to make sure not convicted sex offenders or habitually violent danger.
visitation period usually under 2 weeks stay , part of this is because laws about short term stays mean you can kick them out whereas longer stays can require legal eviction even if there is no contract or rent exchanged legally you establish residence. So interact with them for the 2 weeks and have them automatically required to leave the property. evaluation by everyone in the community come to consensus for longer stay probationary period . This stage weeds out the impulsive perverts, drug addicts, alcoholics and some worse off mentally ill
probationary period These can be from 6 months to 2 years. Get consensus for full membership. This weeds out more of the adept cluster B personality disorders and degenerate free riders
Because there is so much convergence on that pattern i will just assume it is the best construct.
as for what the actual selection criteria are ,thats a whole other can of worms.
Sorry to practice thread necromancy to respond, but what the internet is really good for at this point is aggregating the previous output of culture. Social media has gotten way past the point of "too much noise" but sites like archive dot org are gems, and there are a bunch of private curated libraries like that as well. So in other words, the internet is good for learning if you are a self-directed person. But that's about it, and so that's what I use it for at this point.
It's also an interesting question to ask what will happen to the web in a declining net energy world, over the next 1-2 decades. Probably a slower, text-only internet could be preserved well into the future. But the question is will it be? The corporate stewardship of the internet has been very poor.
Yeah libgen, scihub, wikipedia, wayback machine etc... thats where i get most value. occasional obscure forums. "internet" as a tech is cool, but i think a local area network with info access served by a local datahoarder could provide 90% of the utility
You can run a part of the Internet or a more decentralized successor to it on an embedded energy and resource footprint. P2P infrastructure does not need DCs. Lemmy is an example.