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How would you feel if Beehaw left the Fediverse? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 10 months ago by suspended@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I am one of the admins of Beehaw and I'm trying to get some feedback on our potential move.

Let's start out with a little Beehaw history before judgements are passed, please.

A handful of us were beta testing Tildes when we decided to have discussions on a Discord server.

We decided that our 'Northern Star' or guiding principle would culminate as 'Be Nice' with purposefully vague/flexible interpretations. Our overall goal is to provide a safe space to disenfranchised persons.

We talked for a little over a year and some of our members became impatient. Then someone stepped in to suggest a couple of platforms that we could consider getting started with.

One of those platforms was Lemmy. None of us knew, at that time, anything about ActivityPub.

During the Reddit exodus (surrounding the API outcry and blackout), our instance exploded. We were, initially, crippled by the mass amounts of users seeking refuge.

Thankfully, someone stepped in and volunteered hundreds of hours of work to stabilize our instance and refine it further.

After many hours of talks, it became clear to us that our overall goal could be achieved outside of Lemmy/ActivityPub.

Right now, we feel that Lemmy and ActivityPub have downsides that are limiting us from achieving that goal.

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[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 58 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Which one was beehaw?

[–] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

One of the multiple lemmy newcomers that defederated from us; in their admins' words, because we apparently "deny certain genocides".

@suspended@lemmy.ml what "genocides" would those be exactly ?

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

The thing about genocide is that the concept was formalized as a crime, meaning you do actually have a burden of proof, and you do actually have to provide evidence, and requiring, examining, and weighing the evidence is no more offensive than requiring, examining, and weighing the evidence against someone accused of murder.

And you do actually have to do this analysis, because "genocide" is thrown around all over the place as a political tactic, and plenty of accusations are bullshit (or are you a genocide denier if you call bullshit on the accusation of white genocide in South Africa?).

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The one that doesn't allow downvotes.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

FYI There's more than just one not allowing downvotes

These are all instances excl Beehaw that don't allow downvotes (there might be some I might've missed):