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[–] Mir@programming.dev 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

No one outside the west did before

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately a lot of us did, but we are wising up now. The war in Ukraine and Palestine happening so close to one another allowed us to have on tape western leaders contradicting themselves.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Surprising amounts of people outside the west actually looked favorably on the western liberal model. Western support for Israel is making it impossible to do now though.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This escalation also finally radicalized some of my lib friends to be leftists lol. Even some of the libs are starting to develop common sense.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Turns out there is a limit to the kinds of atrocities that even liberals are willing to support.

[–] somename@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well, a lot of liberals in the west aren’t committed diehard supporters. They just grow and develop in the context of the society around them, and take a lot of the norms uncritically. But with the right pushes, things can change. As they slowly see the contradictions of the liberal society around them, sometimes people realize the lies.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago