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"If you tell a lie big enough and tell it frequently enough, people will eventually come to believe it". What is an example of this happening today? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 10 months ago by Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I'd rather hear about things that are actually happening.

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[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The energy cost to build the car in the first place will never be offset by the usage it will see. You personally might be saving on fuel costs but the energy it costs to refine and build those things taken together with the opportunity cost of what doesn't get built because of the limited supply of resources needed to make those batteries and the whole thing becomes much more of a gray area.

Electric cars aren't here to save the planet they're here to save the car industry.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

But that’s only the case because of the electricity used to create those components. Using green sources like solar power and wind energy would turn that to 0. Some of that is already offset by those sources today and the gap between electric and gas production is only an 11% difference.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

[–] nomecks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

My diesel truck takes three years to turn over the carbon emissions that it took to make my EV.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

But that’s only the case because of the electricity used to create those components. Using green sources like solar power and wind energy would turn that to 0. Some of that is already offset by those sources today and the gap between electric and gas production is only an 11% difference.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars