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I am exploring Lemmy right now and what I see is very worrying to me, but I also don't understand wth is going on with some instances here. I don't know if it's smart to post this, but here we go.

I am partial to Marxist and anarchist ideology, but lemmygrad looks completely unhinged to me. Is it a parody? Some content is fine and some of it is insane.

On the other hand, beehaw looked super inviting from the outside and I even applied to join them. Then, I looked closer and that instance's moderation looks totalitarian and rigid in the other way. (I understand why they blocked lemmygrad though...)

I'm seeing this impact other communities in different ways and there's some kind of witch hunt happening on both sides...

I want to interact with people that can respect each-other and that can hold open-minded discussions about any topics without devolving into some tribal war.

Edit: I realize my post is not a simple question... Let me clarify some thoughs:
-I do not mean beehaw is far-right. The just seem strict and that's their right.
-I worry profiles can "inherit" the bad reputation of instances they interacted with and get pre-emptively banned.
-People are used to reddit and tend to centralize. Is the "just switch community" really an option?
-English is far from my first language and I might've judged things too quickly/harshly so take my criticism with a grain of salt.

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[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Freedom of speech is never freedom of consequence. And if that consequence is that nobody wants to listen to you, well that's on you.

[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Freedom of speech is by definition freedom from consequence for speech.

"Yeah you can criticize glorious leader, you have free speech. You'll just spend the rest of your life unemployable and die/in a gulag"

Nobody is implying that a lack of freedom of speech means they put a gag on your face preventing you from speaking. A lack of freedom of speech means harsh consequences for speech.

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Freedom of speech is from consequences from the government. That means you cannot be prosecuted for insulting politicians for example. But you can certainly be sued in civil court for the same thing.

[–] hyperhopper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are 100% incorrect and are confusing the first amendment of the united states with the concept of freedom of speech.

Why is the government special? Are you implying powerful corporations can't deprive people of rights or oppress people? That is very incorrect and there is a mountain of evidence for this. Are you implying that communities can't or haven't shunned people and ruined their lives for saying reasonable or true things? That is very incorrect and there is a mountain of evidence for this.