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[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What about space travel? Preclaimer: I'm a physics student. Before SpaceX and Indian companies, one ESA launch cost like 500 million dollars, which was impossible to achieve for scientists without direct ESA funding. Now, suddenly physicists can launch small satellites with less than a million.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

and do you genuinely attribute that to capitalism or is that a necessary process that comes with developing a new technology and the infrastructure and expertise to operate it

do you genuinely not believe that that would have happened anyway

i'm sure it'd be hard to disentangle all the influences and come up with hard numbers for "how much" "capitalism" "contributed" and how much farther along cheap space flight is than it would have been under some nonexistent alternative system for which we have no real world examples, but to suggest space flight would not have gotten any cheaper than its initial price would be a tough position to defend, let's put it that way.

And then let's put it another way. Do you not think that a focused society, one run properly and without corruption (ie not human), could develop space flight faster, safer, and cheaper, than it could do while burdened with a bunch of greedy thieves who spend more of their resources on bribing politicians, lining their own pockets, and lying to the public about their products through the marketing department than they do on actual technological development?

Capitalism's shit, m8. Just one big lie from start to finish with not a redeeming moment in between. It's a vampire and you're its food. Do you care if your food has opinions?