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Why do people not understand that you can agree with one thing someone said or did while disagreeing with the majority of what they stand for? (www.youtube.com)

submitted 10 months ago by Lafari@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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An example is that I generally despise Jordan Peterson and most of what he says, but I often quote one thing that Jordan Peterson said (in the linked video) because I think it's a good summary of why toxic positivity doesn't work.

People (who hate JP) freak out when I quote him and say "Why tf are you quoting Jordan Peterson? Are you a insert thing that Jordan Peterson is?" And I'm like "No, I generally disagree with him on most points, aside from this one thing." But they don't believe or accept it and assume that I must be a #1 Jordan Peterson fan or something.

I think it can be considered a partial agreement, majority disagreement. Or a partial agreement with a person you generally disagree with. But I'd be open to other terms of how to describe this in a way people can understand.

Also, to avoid the controversy of referencing Jordan Peterson, if anyone has a better summary of the same concept explained by a different person in a way as well as he does, that would be appreciated too.

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[–] amio@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

People, particularly people with controversial or "edgy" opinions, and especially people with JP-style controversial edginess, tend to hide their opinions behind that exact thing. His fanbase tends to be pretty religious about it and so people who start prattling on about his stuff come off as a red flag. It's a bit like "I'm not racist or anything, but-": you sorta know what's coming.

It's knee-jerk stereotyping, but not exclusively for a poor reason: it's a consequence of a bunch of his fans being cagey. You can obviously quote him or know some quotes without agreeing, but maybe it helps to make it clear. Or just don't refer much to him at all, I guess: anyone who doesn't already know about him can't really profit from learning about his BS.