711
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
711 points (85.7% liked)
Memes
45266 readers
2434 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
Actually, now that I think about it, has there even been a piece of media showing a utopia as capitalist? All the genuine utopias I can think of are usually at least socialist leaning. I say genuine cause there's also a huge number of works about "utopias" where the whole plot is about how the society isn't actually a utopia.
that's because a capitalist Utopia is in no way realistic (and acutally self-contradictory). The only future Capitalism offers is a dystopian one (if we even get to have a future, which is not all that likely under current circumstances)
I think the closest we might would be a mixed economy utopia, where capitalism co-exists with things like workers rights and whatnot. Its probably difficult to write a believeable capalist utopia because it requires that the people at the top are all saints.
Although, with the advances in AI, maybe someone could write a story about some megacorp AI meeting everybody's needs. It might be an interesting writing experiment.
You mean like iRobot?
Tbh I haven't read it. I instead saw the will smith movie that has almost nothing to do with the book.
I was actually talking about the movie! Featuring an AI that comes up with a plan for "meeting everybody's needs." ;)
I think the word you're looking for in reference to a utopia not being a utopia is "dystopia".
There has to be one, but i think most sci-fi authors are left-leaning so their utopias and dystopias both reflect that.
I think you're, uh, pretty super wrong about sci-fi authors being leftists. Maybe the modern ones, but historically they've been pretty right wing.
You've got a point there... Robert Heinlein's books were so fashy that Verhoeven decided the only way Starship Troopers could be turned into a film was if it was done as satire.