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[-] hansl@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But the collective that excludes yourself. It’s like a “we without me”, which is also not the plural you.

[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago
[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Uhm acktually that's two words joined together 🤓

[-] orangeboats@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Exclusive we is actually found in many languages, but usually it's the listener who is excluded. Malay kita "we" includes the listener, kami excludes the listener.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Doesn't spanish have this? I think it is nosotros and vosotros?

[-] Teodomo@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Yes we have vosotros (in Spain) or ustedes (in the rest of the Spanish-speaking world -can't speak for Equatorial Guinea though). But we don't call it a 4th person pronoun. It's just the plural form of the 2nd person pronoun:

1st singular: I / yo

1st plural: we / nosotros

2nd singular: you / tú, vos, usted if you wanna be formal

2nd plural: plural you, y'all / ustedes, vosotros

3rd singular: she, he, singular they / ella, él, elle (that last one mostly used among the young queer/progressive community in some countries)

3rd plural: they / ellos, ellas, elles (same above)

Don't know what a 4th person pronoun would be. And I'm a Spanish teacher in South America lol

[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Yes! Just don't say vosotros in Mexico or they'll think you're a dork

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

Otoh, in Spain if you say Usted or Ustedes they'll think you're a dork

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