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Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 140 points 11 months ago (38 children)

Young voters are being given really shitty choices.

[–] derphurr@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Doesn't matter, over half won't be voting. Even less than normal if GOP state legislatures do away with mail in ballots or automatic mailed request forms from COVID times.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The less people who vote the more elections Republicans win.

Make sure your friends go vote (unless they’re trumpeter assholes maybe, then don’t talk about it).

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Less young people voting is a direct result of the national DNC’s deeply infuriating tactic of promising a fuckton of stuff and then just abandoning those goals and… “compromising” with the GOP every single fucking time the chips are down. And here, “compromise” is pronounced “submit to”, because most Democrats have the neurological inability to understand that these days the GOP will betray them simply on principle, or because one GOP rep wants to tweet something so they can “troll the libs”. And then we all suffer for it.

We all fucking understand the stakes here. The DNC is actively pushing young voters away by using such a deeply cynical strategy and then thinking we’ll forget all about that stupidity the next time an election comes around. From where a lot of young people are standing, it looks a lot like a choice between “actively bad” and “passively bad”, and it’s hard to give a fuck about that, especially if you’re already struggling with other shit in your life, like most of our generation is to one degree or another.

Don’t get me wrong - I vote in every single election I can. But the amount of deeply, fundamentally uninspiring or even actively bad candidates I feel I’m forced to vote for, simply because they’re not a neo-Nazi or a member of the GOP is not small. And to all you vOTe fOr a ThiRD pArTY types out there: you and I both know that’s a great way to hand elections to the GOP, given how our shitty electoral system works.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The party is absolutely taking advantage of how bad their opponents have become. Democratic party leadership has regarded the left of the party with such withering contempt for so long, and then they wonder why the left resents them.

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[–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah these polls always being in terms like "registered voters" or "likely voters". Where as they really should poll "eligible to vote" instead to get full picture of the societal political mood situation.

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[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I wonder when this magical time was where voting for the president had great choices. What many young voters fail to understand is that it’s not all about the president. Get enough Democrats into Congress, and they will be able to vote for progressive legislation, and if you send that to your far-from-ideal president’s desk, they’ll sign it.

It's certainly a much easier task than having an awesome progressive president who begs a near 50-50 Congress to pass good bills, and it just doesn’t happen.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Get enough Democrats into Congress, and they will be able to vote for progressive legislation,

We had 60 and they killed the public option. How many do we need?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People need to study how the Moral Majority took control of the GOP. Nixon was a dead duck after he lost his California Senate race, but he knew that an ex-Vice President was a big deal in small places. He campaigned tirelessly for years, getting lots of Reps, Governors, and Mayors elected. In 1968 he breezed in because he had the Party base on his side.

The MMs did the same. They would show up at every local GOP meeting with enoughvotes to get their agenda enacted. One day the Party big shots looked around and realized that all the dog catchers, county clerks, and sheriffs in their state were MMs.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Abbreviation for the Moral Majority that they mentioned in the first paragraph.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Thanks for explaining

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Oh gotcha thanks.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so we need to force the system to change outside of its normal paths of power to have choices. No one thinks this time existed, everyone understands the current situation is bad.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People need to study how the Moral Majority took control of the GOP. Nixon was a dead duck after he lost his California Senate race, but he knew that an ex-Vice President was a big deal in small places. He campaigned tirelessly for years, getting lots of Reps, Governors, and Mayors elected. In 1968 he breezed in because he had the Party base on his side.

The MMs did the same. They would show up at every local GOP meeting with enoughvotes to get their agenda enacted. One day the Party big shots looked around and realized that all the dog catchers, county clerks, and sheriffs in their state were MMs.

repeated comment

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

Who woulda thunk that grassroots campaign works? Even for the side that you don't like?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, this is tradition.

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