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Are kbin upvotes/downvotes public? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by revampeduser@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

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just wanted to ask this bc lemmy supposedly has public upvotes/downvotes and I don't know if kbin has it too

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[–] vaguerant@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that privacy more illusory than actual? You're not surfacing the web pages which show the votes, but the protocol is openly sharing that info and anybody can still see what your instance's users have voted on just by looking at them from a different instance. I'm not going to out anybody, but it was trivial for me to find that thread here on kbin.social and see exactly who upvoted it, including a kglitch.social user.

[–] kglitch@kglitch.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes.

But downvotes, the only really drama-causing aspect of this, are not federated so won't be visible from another instance.

[–] UnshavedYak@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Frankly i'd prefer all of it to be private, but there's merit to both sides.

re:drama-causing, i'm also removing downvotes from my instance in dev for the same reason. I do think some version of muting has value, though - but kinda feels like it should be a tool earned, similar to HackerNews (they have downvotes, but only after a certain amount of earned "karma").

[–] YMS@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Downvotes are not federaded on your instance or on kbin in general or even on AcitivityPub in general?

Cause that would look like an probably little known factor for choosing an instance.