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I built the github version of Mlem and realised that if I build it for iPad, it has a full sidebar an almost complete iPad featuers! (i.imgur.com)
submitted 1 year ago by WiseMoth@lemmy.world to c/mlemapp@lemmy.ml
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Is there any eta for this version releasing? Do you guys know if it will be in the App Store version?

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[–] anon_water@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seriously though we got drug out for like 4 years on an iPad version that never saw light of day. Christian even talked about showing a video when he posted about shutting Apollo down. And of course the video has never been released.

[–] ndr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He probably wanted to do something too ambitious and feature-rich, and then could never finish it (sunk cost fallacy and all that); although many users would’ve already appreciated something simpler too, like the screenshot.

[–] anon_water@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep he wouldn’t release it because he wanted it perfect (his words). I seriously doubt he put much work into it nor considered product plan for users.

[–] FelipeFelop@feddit.uk 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Firstly, what happened with Apollo was awful after all the hard work that Christian put into it.

BUT he was/is terrible at acting in feedback from users. Consequently, the promised iPad app never appeared and there were bugs in Apollo that never got acknowledged let alone fixed. He didn’t use TestFlight properly so on three occasions there were show stopper releases that needed urgent fixes. The official Apollo forum was used for support but was often hostile to people who asked for help.

I don’t want to be too critical because Apollo was amazing, but all these things came from being a sole developer while also doing support and marketing. He needed to trust other people and get some help.

[–] anon_water@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I’m also glad Christian isn’t making a Lemmy app. This enables other apps like Memmy and Mlem to gain traction and do it better. These aren’t solo developers. They are also OSS.

[–] anon_water@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Well said I agree to it all.

[–] danielton@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree. All the bugs I ran into plus the toxic community (how DARE you insult His Majesty with bug reports you f---ing peasant?!) drove me away.

Which is funny because his closing post says "we want to be nice people" hence the "rules"... but the constant abuse of anyone who dared to report bugs was blatantly allowed and seemingly encouraged. No lone developer can possibly catch all bugs. It's just a fact of life.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He could still release the video though..?

He wanted to do quite a bit more than a simple (semi-automatic) layout with a sidebar and main content. While this may look great at first glance, how useful it it really? There's a lot more to UX.