all I’m hearing is “don’t organize against your demsoc government because it’s fighting for national sovereignty against the united states” (sovereignty for national bourgeois who oppress all the same)

Are the Marcyists in the room with us right now?

[–] CatratchoPalestino@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

the iraq war where the united states invaded iraq or do you mean the gulf war where iraq invaded kuwait because I think you’re conflating them

seems like there are marcyites since it sounds like i’ve found their strongest defender

[–] voight@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The protest movement against Iraq II, meek as it was, resulted in the word Marcyite being thrown around quite a bit. And one of Slavoj Zizek's stinkiest papers ever

You just keep insisting there is a connection between basic anti-imperialist postions and dabbing on the global poor.

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you but nothing I said should be heard as telling you not to organize for a better world, I wish you the best with that.

[–] CatratchoPalestino@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

just because the word marcyite has been used as an unfair polemic doesn’t mean that marcyism hasn’t had much control over the literal successor organizations like the PSL or organizations filled with a lot of their members like the ANSWER coalition. and I can organize for a better world tomorrow today I complain about americans

[–] voight@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why complain about the sliver of Americans who take anti-imperialist positions because you view it as... a slippery slope into unconditional support of reactionary governments? You've got plenty of Americans who are more concerned with your country as a source of Poison Blood.

Our creditors, international electoral & financial organizations the EU+US+Japan+SK has dominance over, & our military training, aid, & intervention are what have amplified reactionary currents in Latin America. Not the PSL. You're tilting at windmills.

Feel free to be more specific with your actual grievances against these organizations.

[–] CatratchoPalestino@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago

I don’t have issues with americans usually mexicans are much worse and all the organizations you list and actions done are your government not you. why would I blame americans for actions done at the behest of capitalists? I blame the capitalists not the workers