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Basically: use GPT to help copy an entire web site, then jack their search results, get profit. Aided by the fact that search engines are shit. This is something you could do before, GAI just made it faster.

Web2 is going great!

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[–] locallynonlinear@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Helpful reminder to spread the word on Google alternatives this holiday season. Bought Kagi subscriptions as stocking stuffers for my loved ones. Everyone who I have convinced to give it a try has been impressed thus far.

SEO will pillage the commons. It has been for years and years. Community diversity and alternative payment models for search are part of the bulwark.

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

huh, the same folks in my life who were wrong about me regretting paying for email (protonmail) will love this

kagi looks interesting and I like their design compared with DuckDuckGo, but the usable tier seems to include a bit of AI crap I don’t want. is the AI shit opt-in (including their use of my data), and does it seem unlikely they’ll enshittify in the future?

[–] locallynonlinear@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can read their blog about the AI-crap, in terms of their approach and philosophy. In general, it is optional and not part of the major experience.

The main reason I use kagi is immediately obvious from doing seaches. I convinced my wife to switch to it when she ask, "ok but what results does it show when I search sailor moon?" and she saw the first page (fan sites, official merch, fun shit she had forgotten about for years).

What you need to know is that you pay money, and they have to give you results that you like. It's a whole different world.

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago

fuck I am tempted… maybe I’ll try the limited tier (which also omits the LLM stuff!) and if I hit the limit, it’s a sign I’m at least getting use out of it

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