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[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There are really no bad trips it's "bad" because we are in denial of what is showing us, and that conflict creates the "bad trip"

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A) False. I wasn't "in denial" when I had my first legitimate bad trip. That's what made it so cathartic. I was suddenly faced with thoughts and emotions I wasn't even aware of.

B) That's kind of a dumb thing to say: "There's no such thing as a bad trip, but things can make a trip go bad."?

If your set and setting send you into a bad place, that is the LITERAL definition of the phrase "bad trip". Ergo, bad trips are a thing.

Thats like saying "there's no such thing as - 'contaminated water'. There's water which is tainted by chemicals or inorganic compounds which creates 'contaminated water' ". How it came to be contaminated is irrelevant in that context. It's still contaminated.

You're gatekeeping a psychedelic experience, and for what?

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Because they're some 20yr old wannabe psychonaut with extremely limited experience with drugs or mental healthcare.

[–] themelm@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dangerous advice. It is possible to have a psychotic break from psychedelics. But yes most bad trips are "difficult" or anxiety attacks rather than all bad.

[–] Saltblue@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

It's not advice it's my opinion, but yeah no everyone has enough mental fortitude, so don't take my experience as baseline.

[–] iiGxC@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago

There are difficult trips like you're describing, where it's unpleasant but there's something to learn from it. And having the mindset you describe can remind you to look for the meaning in that kind of situation. But there are in fact truly bad trips, where there is no readeemable aspect of it, it's just pure unnecessary suffering. And that's not even getting to people who have a psychotic break