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[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 121 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

They will grow up but it will be a much different world. Back in the 70s, Rachel Carson posited that it was probably already too late to turn back the effects of air pollution and poisoning of our oceans, and she was right. Instead of fixing problems, oil and gas companies are doubling down on fossil fuel extraction. Kids will grow up to have all kinds of respiratory illnesses and also facing a world that is melting around them.

Most years we're in below 20 degree snowy weather. Today it's 50 degrees here, it's Dec 18th and we've only seen snow in our mountains, which is very rare for us in Utah. Not that I'm complaining about the heat -I love warmer weather, and I absolutely detest the sight of snow in any way, shape or form. But it is weird that we're not even going to have snow on the ground this Christmas (we might get some rain this week).

[–] waigl@lemmy.world 100 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Temperature translation for non-Americans:

70°F ≈ 21.1°C
50°F = 10°C
20°F ≈ -6.7°C

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Conversion for the Midwest

70f= nice out 50f= nice out 20f= bring a hoodie. It's nice out.

Lol I was just telling my sister in law "how nice it was out" yesterday. I look at the temp: 22F.

[–] Tbird83ii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

-10f - damn. Snot froze. That's inconvenient. Still, look at those sun dogs. It's nice out.

-40 - my eyes froze shut when I blinked... It's darn cold.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's currently 50F° in my living room. It's been like this since start of December. Heating is for weaklings.

[–] danielbln@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] gears@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't mold like warm and wet air? Not dry and cold?

[–] btr_fan87@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't want your walls to get below the dew point.

[–] gears@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

I see, that makes sense!

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[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My dogs start to shiver inside at like 55, but will spend all day outside at 30 and love every minute of it. Fuckin weirdos. So we compromise, they get the heat, the fluffy pillows, and wrapped in blankets, and I get to live with them.

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[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (53 children)

Here's an easy way for disadvantaged yanks to learn Celsius:

40C = 104F perfect hot tub temp
30C = 86F hot day
20C = 68F nice cool day
10C = 50F chilly day
0C = 32F freezing

Commit these to memory, then it's exactly 9F for every 5C in between. (or about 2:1)

[da fak with the downvotes? Just refuse to learn?]

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You give multiple references and say remember these and then do some estimations. Just subtract 30, divide by 2. 80F is approximately 25C. I'm not cooking meth here I'm arguing on the Internet.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Fine but I'm offering a simplified and exact conversion method that mostly only requires memorizing four numbers

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[–] waigl@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

[how do I get that hard return on phone keyboard?]

End your line with two spaces.

Like
this,
see?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Lol Memmy interprets that as no spaces.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Nice, but should be "temperature translation for 99% of countries"

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I don't know... I sort of like "temperature translation for non-murricans" better.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Back in the 70s, Rachel Carson posited that it was probably already too late to turn back the effects of air pollution and poisoning of our oceans, and she was right.

That's amazing. She died in 1964 and still kept working.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

Well what I'm referring to is her book "Silent Spring," which gained national attention in the 70s. Not saying she wrote it during the 70s.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Back in the 70s, Rachel Carson posited that it was probably already too late to turn back the effects of air pollution and poisoning of our oceans,

I feel ya, but try not to give in to that feeling, as it's also the last step in the oil companie's PR playbook; when it's finally coming knowledge, to say "well, yes it was our fault but it's too late to do anything about it "

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

Well it's not a very positive outlook, but I've heard it from scientists more than from big oil and gas (that it's too late to turn back these effects). I"m not saying we can't try to mitigate these things going forward, maybe we can make huge changes by taking small steps toward cleaner energy sources.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm up in Mammoth right now and it is raining, absolutely wild for this time of year. I didn't even bother snowboarding this trip because the slopes are more conducive to ice-skating. Caught of on a lot of sleep though, so that was nice.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mammoth, that's gotta pretty nice right now (if you don't mind no snow). Not as cold as it usually is for this time of year. I want to go there soon, hopefully this coming summer, because it's usually nicer up there.

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[–] Sagifurius@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was sixty degrees yesterday, in Saskatchewan

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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