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[–] Gljvf@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Considering I own multiple guns and multiple knifes I can tell you that a knife can easily go through a hand and into a chest and a six year old would be more than powerful enough to do so.

Perhaps you only have experience woth butter knifes and steak knives. But I have seen a high quality cooking knives take off fingers like it was a butter knife going through warm butter.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So it's six year olds you're not familiar with. Right you are chief, you keep on believing. Makes you wonder why militaries go to all the expense of having guns when knives are exactly the same don't it.

[–] Gljvf@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I may not be as familiar as you are it seems. However I have multiple young children in my family amd some friends have children ranging from a few months old to teenagers. I certainly know how strong a five year old can be.

You should know that knives and bayonets have been used effectively in militaries the world over for over a century

But you know that and just do t want to admit it.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're vastly overestimating how strong a six year old is, the effective range of a six year old with a knife and underestimating how much faster and stronger an able bodied grown adult is in comparison and how relatively easy it is to defend yourself from a six year old you're literally facing down when they're limited by their own strength.

The bayonet is a weapon of last resort, the US army haven't trained with them in more than a decade and last fought a bayonet battle 70 years ago, there's not a professional army on the planet who's primary weapon is an edged blade. More bad faith horse shit.

[–] Gljvf@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

6 year olds are first graders and typically have very close interactions with teachers. It doesn't take much for a 6 year old to stab through a person's hand and into a person's chest. Also my point is more thay the child could have taken a knife from thier parent as easily as a gun and then went on to stab the teacher. In both instances the result could end in death.

Knives are responsible for a lot of deaths and there have been mass stabbings in the news recently

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To quote you

The kid could have done this woth a knife that was left in her purse

Which is absolutely disingenuous. The teacher was facing the child reaching out for the gun when the child shot. Next time you're around a child in that age range have a game of slapsies, even with your fingertips touching and you having to hold still until the child tries to slap your hand they'll struggle to get you.

Both knife and gun could absolutely result in a death by a six year old given the right circumstances but they're not equivalent, not even close.

[–] Gljvf@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

I will disagree with you. You discover the event in a sterile way without knowing how quickly either were moving. Your just assuming that it wouldn't be possible but woth the teacher reaching out to grab the gun, if you replace it woth a knife and the child also trying to stab at the adult you now have the child's momentum and the adult momentum meeting at the blade tip and adults hand. Could have just as easily gone through the center of the hand and the momentum of the adult could have continued forward bringing thier chest at the blade.