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Threads and the Fediverse | Kev Quirk (kevquirk.com)
submitted 11 months ago by Masimatutu@mander.xyz to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml
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Here's a very different take on Threads by a Fosstodon admin.

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What a dumb take.

Yeah stuff is public, but that doesn't mean we have to hand it to them on a silverplatter and allow them to scrape it legally. Because they don't have the legal right to just scrape websites, as everything is copyrighted unless the ToS specifically allows federated instances to copy it. By defederating you make it pretty clear they they are not allowed to just take it.

Next point equally dumb: no one owns the fediverse, sure. But if enough instances say no, that means they are not welcome. Democracy and all...

And the last point is the dumbest: Threads will just include a revenue sharing model like Youtube does and the ”dumb fucks" (quote Zuckerberg) will love to include ads in their posts; even praise Meta for being so generous to throw them some crumbs.

[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

doesn’t mean we have to hand it to them on a silverplatter and allow them to scrape it legally

They could have just set up a simple Pleroma on Raspberry Pi and it would have been just as "legal" as any other instance. You'd need to turn on AUTHORIZED_FETCH and set up authentication on the Mastodon API, otherwise everything is public and unauthenticated (even if the instance is suspended/defederated).

But if enough instances say no, that means they are not welcome. Democracy and all

mastodon.social has already said yes. So have all the other big instances. Most of them have said "we'll wait and see". So democracy served I guess

And the last point is the dumbest: Threads will just include a revenue sharing model like Youtube does

Yeah, maybe. Who knows. I'll deal with it when it happens rather than knee-jerk years in advance. Threads has a long way to go, it's missing a lot of features to put it on par with their other commercial competitors, so I think they're going to be busy doing other things.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Next point equally dumb: no one owns the fediverse, sure. But if enough instances say no, that means they are not welcome. Democracy and all...

If you want to talk about democracy, technically they would have the most weight as they have the most active users.

that means they are not welcome.

Also to this specifically. Not a single CEO or threads user cares.