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[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 156 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And this isn't even right, 2 people founded Tesla the other 3 are investors....

[–] yOya@lemm.ee 90 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Careful, Musk might send the internet goon squad after you for saying that. He gets very upset if you call him an investor in Tesla.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Starlink is trash too, come at me Elon

[–] themelm@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Starlink is shitty and yet where I'm at its still easily the cheapest, fastest, and most reliable option. Infuriating really.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, if he spent the money on laying fibre instead of using satilites that need to be replaced every at most 18 months and as little as 2 months, everyone would have been better off.

[–] themelm@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah and if my province hadn't sold of their public telephone company to private investors I'd be even more better off so I'm more pissed about that.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Gotta love when rich people convince our politicians that they can do the job better than the Govt and then we loose everything. Like when Brian M sold off CN Rail now Bill Gates is making billions from it.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but he only has the one digger, so the fiber would all end up in hyperloop-sized tunnels, it'd be like the Underminer from the Incredibles.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Prob would still be cheaper and more environmentally friendlier

[–] velxundussa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I see that being said quite often.

Is there any actual proof of this or is it speculation?

In low density population areas, it seems to me that laying fiber would be cost prohibitive, but I'd like to be proven wrong.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Each satellite is worth 250k @ 5,500 units currently (and its still garbage unless its your only option). And this is just the cost of satilites

Worse case scenario for laying fibre is $80,000 for 1 mile

You do the shit maths and that is 17,187.5 miles (not km) of fibre for what is currently in LEO and excluding the price of launching these POS into the nights sky. So for best case senario every 18 months that is how much fibre lines Elon could be laying.

From Presque Isles, Maine to Sandiego, California is 3,305 miles

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The internet has ruined me, because I read goon squad and thought of the other 'gooning'.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't them after you either.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Understandable, have a day

[–] misophist@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Excuse me, but one of the conditions of Elon's investment was that they pretend he was a founder and refer to him as such!

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

It wasn't a condition of his initial investment, but rather of a lawsuit settlement five years later, in 2009 (six years after Eberhard and Tarpenning actually founded it).