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[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

mm totally! seems like a very “i’ll just wait for the next gen to buy an EV” kind of thing

… like, even if it’s possible it’s not possible… just the amount of energy required to be transferred into that battery wouldn’t charge in any existing charging infrastructure

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ya that is the other major point. Toyota doesn’t have a charging network, and they didn’t build out a hydrogen network for their hydrogen car.

So even if they have this battery it would not be able to do what they claimed in practical use.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their hydrogen cars work fine.. as long as you live in a tiny area in california and have no desire to leave it lol

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And are willing to pay “more” for expensive hydrogen.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh, the dude I know with a hydrogen car was bragging about the price of hydrogen compared to gas.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/why-is-hydrogen-fuel-so-expensive/8558411/

The Toyota Mirai comes with $15,000 worth of free fuel https://www.toyota.com/mirai/

Maybe that is what they where bragging about? Ask them in 3 years when the free fuel runs out.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't know what to tell you without your friend providing some actual real world numbers. Even the PRO hydrogen sites tend to note the high costs and are pushing for more cheap fossil fuel based natural gas reforming to make more of it cheaper (not green).

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I just know he liked it and gasoline costs were higher back then when we were talking about it. If memory serves that was 2016-2017, somewhere in the beforetimes. Hydrogen costs very well could have increased (to the consumer, in general, I don't know that market at all) since then. He did like bragging that he paid less to fuel it up than I did for my Nissan, but it wasn't free. Our local hydrogen station is right next to the government employee fuel depot so there might have been some subsidy? I'll have to ask next time we get lunch.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

There have been and still are several subsidies from what I have read.. I don't live anywhere close to a station it is fairly limited to a hand full of stations.