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Hackers already infiltrate EV chargers (grist.org)
submitted 1 year ago by cyu@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world
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one featured a picture of President Biden pointing his finger, with an “I did that!” caption. the hosts of The Kilowatts tweeted a video showing it was possible to take control of an Electrify America station’s operating system. cracks could conceivably permit hackers to access vehicle data or consumers’ credit card information

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[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tesla controls the car, protocol, charger, and payment processing.

They support CCS as the protocol

Everyone else outside the walled garden is openly handling a much bigger market with many more variables in more countries.

Tesla has more cars than just about all the rest of the market.. Name a charing provider that operates in a country tesla does not?

Forcing customers to use an app for each brand of charger is also an accessibility nightmare.

Funny enough a large number of these charging providers require that ON TOP of having poor monitoring and security for the charging terminals.

Fear mongering about skimmers is a dumb reason to remove traditional payment methods.

Didn't really suggest removing them, I pointed out it is already an issue at nearly all gas stations. Not a new problem.

If I can break into a Tesla charger wirelessly and fuck with your car

Already started to happen with ICE cars back in 2015 are already vulnerable to wireless exploit, no charging network or gas station needed. At least with a Tesla you get quick wireless security updates, no waiting for a recall notice and trip back to the dealer.

[–] Funwayguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They support CCS as the protocol

CCS is is only supported through a PLC translation chip on the vehicle side or a rare Magic Dock adaptor, and only when one side is non-Tesla. Outside of that, CCS is not a factor and the proprietary 11bit CAN bus protocol is used natively. Hence, Tesla controls every side of the equation on their protocol and payment processing without having to communicate with 3rd parties.

Name a charging provider that operates in a country tesla does not?

ABB chargers in India

Tesla you get quick wireless security updates, no waiting for a recall notice and trip back to the dealer.

This isn't new or innovative. OTA updates for cars have been around years before EVs. But usually those don't stop the car from starting then still be towed to said dealer because the update wasn't properly tested or have fallbacks in case of failure.

Point is, shit is going to happen across the board for everyone and Tesla is NOT some golden child. It'll just be another Apple case where dumb security claims get touted until hackers bring them down a peg or two.

[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

CCS is is only supported through a PLC translation chip on the vehicle side or a rare Magic Dock adaptor, and only when one side is non-Tesla.

In the US, in Europe they have the CSS2 plug, and owners of other cars can use the Tesla App to charge at super chargers. (if we are talking globally not just NA)

ABB chargers in India

The do have superchargers there, but they aren't active due to the hang up of selling cars there. Would argue that Tesla operates a reliable charging network in more countries than any other charging network does currently.

Point is, shit is going to happen across the board for everyone

Yep, it just sounded like you were suggesting this was an EV thing or a Tesla thing.. It isn't everyone needs to do better at security.

Going back to the main topic. It seems odd that so many "dedicated" charging providers SUCK at being charging providers.