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Tesla claims California false-advertising law violates First Amendment::Tesla fights DMV complaint that Autopilot is falsely advertised as autonomous.

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[–] RedWeasel@lemmy.world 82 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This kind of "self driving" shouldn't even be legal. Giving a driver a explicit reason not to pay attention but still instructing them and expecting them to pay attention is a recipe for disaster. I don't know whose bright idea that was, maybe an accident lawyer, but it has been quite deadly.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My favourite clip is the one where the Tesla, seconds after repeatedly trying to kill a cyclist, decides that it’s a train and tries to go on the train tracks instead.

And people pay for that bullshit.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And they made it a subscription too so you have to keep paying

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you take your eyes off the road for more than 3-5 seconds (depending on speed), it beeps at you. Doing this 3 times in about 5 mins will lock you out of the system and give you a strike. 5 strikes in about 6-9 months, you lose access to the “self driving”.

It’s way more aggressive than it used to be at least.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Even if that is true and the system is perfect at doing so....

This does nothing to refute his point. It's still giving a reason not to pay attention while requiring that you pay attention.

Even if it is accurately able to assess whether you are, and act accordingly, it is still giving you a reason not to pay attention. All your statement does is reinforce that it's requiring you to pay attention, which was part of his point.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Definitely not refuting the point. Just noting that it’s very aggressive in making sure you’re watching the road. I can’t even look at the screen where the map is for too long or it gives me a warning beep.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How does the car know where your looking? Don’t you have your hands on the steering wheel? I have a lane keep assist feature in my car and it has you take the wheel every 15 secs if it hasn’t felt your hand weight on the wheel.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There’s a camera in the cabin that faces the driver. It’s above the rear view mirror. It does also feel the weight of your hand on the wheel and gets mad if that’s missing.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oh interesting I didn’t realize they were able to view the driver while your driving.